With a WSOP Pot-Limit championship under his belt and more than $1.5 million in winnings raked in over the past few years, Team UltimateBet member Dave Ulliott has hit a high point in his 20-year poker career. From his hometown of Hull, England, the Devilfish describes his rise from backroom tables and explains what it feels like to have the world gunning for you.
How did you get started playing poker?
"I used to play a bit with my mother and father at the kitchen table. The turning part was when I started working making shields and trophies. At lunch time, they used to play poker during the break. I started playing plain draw poker - and losing - and one of the old boys in the game, this old guy called Jack, was a member at the only casino in Hull. It was this very small, shady casino called the 51 Club. I was quite a tall kid for 15, and he signed me in there. I started playing this game called Three-Card Brag. I ended up getting lots and lots of money at that game because I could track the cards coming around. It was like tracking the Aces and Jacks in Black Jack. Anyway, I started playing this Brag game, then I went to Strip-Deck Stud Poker, which is the same game Steve McQueen played in The Cincinnati Kid. And, I played that game for 20-odd years in Hull until I couldnt find a game. They used to move the game if they knew I was coming."
So you built your career from the street.
"Oh yeah. I started off without spit to slide on. My house was so small when I was a kid they had to paint the furniture on the walls. You could put your hand down the chimney and open the door from the inside if you forgot your key."
How old were you when you went pro?
"I never really went pro. It just sort of slipped upon me. I bought this jewelry business 20 years ago from poker winnings, and me and the wife run it. Id go off playing poker in places like Leeds, Bradford, London, then across to Vegas. I used to play in places where you had to take a gun with you. The hard bit wasnt winning the money - the hard bit was getting out with it."
Whats the shadiest game youve experienced?
"Me and Gary, this friend who used to drive me around, we went to this game at a Pakistanis place. This guy was about six-foot-seven and the skinniest guy youve ever seen. He used to twang in the wind. This game was down a dark back alley with rats lying around that were probably waiting to get on the menu. Youd go up this fire escape in the freezing cold on a winter morning. I went into this place, and there were about nine Pakistanis there, and I started to break each one. As Id bust one of them, another would jump in. So, I probably busted about 20 Pakistanis that night. I took all the money they had. Gary and I were the last out, and as we were leaving we got into this back room leading onto the fire escape. I said to Gary, Wait a minute. I turned the light out so it was completely dark and got my eyes used to it. I walked out first with Gary behind me and heard them whispering in the alleyway. They were waiting for me to get the money back. I pulled a gun out of my jacket - and Gary didnt even know I was carrying a gun this night. I fired it in the air. Imagine 5:30 on a winter morning when you could hear a pin drop, and here I am, firing a gun in the air. Gary shit his pants behind me, and you heard all the dust bins going off as they ran down the alleyway. So, I got in the car and blew on the barrel of the gun - like they do in the old cowboy movies - and said, Lets go, baby."
That covers the past nicely, whats your big goal for the future?
"Im making this web site, www.DevilFishPoker.com, and I want to build it up and make a bunch of money. Its up and running, and its fantastic. Its like a gangster site. You come up to this steel door, and the grill comes across and this ugly face comes up and decides if hes going to let you in. You go in and sit down in the brickwork room, give yourself a gangster name and get going. Theres already like 15,000 people playing. I dont want to come across as an advertisement, but Ive also got www.TheDevilFishStore.com, where I sell chip sets, poker tables, card shufflers. Its the best there is, and its cheaper than everywhere else. Not only that, but I give away a free DVD with every purchase. And the DVD is great because Im funny. Some guys doing these DVDs should be hypnotists - they send you right to sleep. But, this is good stuff."
Thats a hell of a pitch. Tell the whole story behind the nickname Devilfish.
"The Devilfish was given to me by a Chinese guy in Birmingham by the name of Stevie. This guy likened me to the Devilfish because Im very aggressive and I give em the needle after I take the money off them. The Devilfish is the blowfish that only a few chefs can prepare - if they dont take the poison out right itll kill you. Gary, who drove me around, was there at the game. We walked out of the game, and I forgot all about it. Three months later I was playing against Men The Master in the Four Queens Omaha tournament, and nobody even knew me over there. It was only me and him left, heads up, and somebody yelled out, Go on, The Master! Right out, Gary shouted, Go on the F-ing Devilfish! Hed remembered all the way from three months back in Birmingham. And the headline on the flyer the next day was, Devilfish devours The Master. I went back three months later, won a gold bracelet and put Devilfish on it for a bit of fun. Its better than naming yourself Slippery Ass or something."
A lot of pros had their down and out moments whether going broke or just partying too much - what have you struggled with along the way?
"Both of em - going broke and partying too much. Ive been broke plenty of times, and Ive definitely partied too much. All the young guys out there, Antonio and Phil, they all like going out with me because Im a rocknroller. Ill get up with the band and grab a guitar off em. Im friends with Ronnie Wood out of the Rolling Stones. Im big friends with Roland Gift out of the Fine Young Cannibals. He came 200 miles down from London to sing me a couple songs at my 40th birthday. Thats class right there."
Whos your favorite pro to play against in the U.S.?
"Probably Sammy Farha. We always have a laugh. Its always entertaining when its me and him in the game. When Im on a game and hes not, I have to get everybody steaming on tilt and gambling bad. But, Sammy does that for you if hes on the game, so you can just sit there and mop up."
Hows the poker scene different in the U.K. versus the U.S.?
"Apart from the obvious that everythings bigger in the U.S. - like the dick swing, according to the girls. The tournaments are bigger out there. Theyve got all the rules sorted out. Theres nothing that they havent come across before. A lot of the tournaments in Europe are still getting things ironed out. Ive mentioned rules to places in Europe, and they say, Yeah, yeah, well think about it. Then a year later, they bring it in as if its their idea. Just simple things, like, you have to be in your chair before the last cards dealt. This is just a simply good rule because it just saves arguments. Also in America, there are a lot of four-day tournaments, where in the U.K. a lot of the tournaments are still two-day or one-day. It takes a lot of the skill out of the game."
Whats the most extravagant way youve blown your winnings?
"Well, I threw $40,000 in the trash can in Paris. I put a bag into the safe, which I thought was containing $40,000, when in fact it was containing rubbish. And, I left the $40,000 in a similar-looking bag on the floor, which I thought was containing rubbish. So, I walked out and put it in the wheelie bin. The next day, I realized it and went to the people who handle the rubbish, and instead of mentioning that I lost $40,000 in a bag, I told them Id lost some keys and wanted to know if I could get the bag back. They said, No, it goes straight off the truck and into the incinerator. So, that was the end of that."
Were you drunk or something?
"No. I dont need to be drunk to do stupid things."
What do you think of this new crowd of serious amateurs that are playing?
"You know, a lot of these are good players, but in the past two tournaments Ive played in its been ridiculous. I just had a guy in Amsterdam who actually called me on the flop with no outs, called me on the turn with no outs, and at the end he put a bluff in on me. As it happens, the perfect cards come off for him to be able to bluff it - if that card hadnt come up, I was calling a million percent. Then he turns his hand up and wants to show and laugh as though hes smart. Really, its just ridiculous. But, these are the kinds of moves guys want to do on me in front of the table and say, Look, I bluffed the Devilfish out of a pot. I outplayed him. Obviously, youre getting it all the time. It makes it tough when everybodys gunning for you."
How do you deal with it?
"You just have to tighten up. A lot of these guys dont have enough common sense to realize that I dont play the same at the beginning of a tournament with my $10,000 stack of chips as I do on the final when Im chip leader. I play pretty tight at the beginning to get some chips together."
What differences do you see in the new generation of guys who are contending to be pros now that the game has exploded?
"A lot of these young guys win a lot of money on the internet. So, theyve got a lot of confidence. Theyre cocky, and they think theyre world-beaters. But, I dont know if theyll be around in 10 years. I mean, I bought a gold-and-diamond business before poker was even known - before TV and prize money - just by playing cash games around places these young kids wouldnt dare walk in. You cant go around the places Ive been around if youre a namby-pamby. Theres a lot of guys out there - even the pros that are playing now - that wont last 10 minutes in these places. When I sit across the table from somebody, I dont care who they are. Im not afraid to say what I want to say. However bad it gets, its been worse. "
Do these new guys play entirely differently without that experience?
"A lot of these guys are flying by the seat. I used to be a bit the same as them 10 or 15 years ago. When I first went out to Vegas, I played a lot heads-up, just to prove the point that I was the best. I had a bit of an ego problem, but I dont think I have it now. The reason Im playing in Monte Carlo with these other six pros isnt because theres a great edge in it - its just that I can advertise my site during the interviews."
If you werent playing poker now, what would you be doing for a living?
"Id probably be a male model."
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